June 26, 2009 @ 2:07 pm
Dealing With Local Politicians: Anybody Have a Wooden Stake?
In a 1993 referendum, New Yorkers voted to limit city politicians to two terms or eight years. Three years later, the city council tried to revise the law with a new referendum that provided for staggered terms not to exceed twelve years. The voters rejected it. Until Bloomberg, Quinn, and their soldiers in crime overturned it, the rule was up or out in eight years. That’s what this election is about:
Forcing Politicians to Respect The People.
The incumbents and their supporters want to talk about other things of course, and they will seek to distract voters from the only issue that matters in this election. For those who haven’t focused on how skilled most politicians are at this sort of thing — in other words, those folks who have a life — here are a couple of stories. I hope others will contribute theirs.
At Independence Plaza, we didn’t want politicians to gain credibility with the tenants so, although they often asked, we never allowed them to speak at tenant meetings. We were 3,500 people. Politicians wanted our support, but with rare exceptions, they would do nothing to earn it. They had too many other agendas.
Kathryn Fried lived in our complex. She had been a council member for almost eight years. Peter Vallone was the speaker. (His son inherited the seat and is one of the council members who voted to overturn the term limits vote.) Both Vallone and Fried were term limited. He was running in a Democratic primary to replace Giuliani. Fried was preparing to run for Public Advocate. I thought that she might be motivated to do something to help us save our homes. She had a very different agenda. Over dinner with my wife and me, she mentioned that she was one of several council members who were trying to pass a bill to eliminate the term limits law. “It will be a disaster for the city if the experienced council members are turned out,” she said. “Who will teach the new people the ropes? The staff will end up in charge of the council,” she argued. “The mayor will completely dominate.”
There’s always a public purpose rationale, and it has to have at least a surface credibility otherwise it wouldn’t be effective.
“Bullshit, the voters voted for term limits law twice,” I replied.
“The voters were fooled. Ron Lauder financed a huge propaganda campaign to get the law passed.”
“Look, I don’t blame you for wanting to hold on to your job, but if you try to engineer this scheme, I’ll organize a group of picketers outside your apartment.”
It was a snotty remark, but she was treating me like a naive constituent and I didn’t like it. An awkward silence ensued. My wife looked at me reproachfully, not for the politics of it — I knew she agreed — but we had invited the lady to dinner. Trying to soften things, I said something inane. The dinner ended on a sour note. Fried understandably wanted to keep her job. Either way, she would need the support of Democratic political insiders. Neither she nor they would ever help us.
The term limit negotiations between the council and Giuliani fell apart — Giuliani had other plans. Kathryn Fried would soon be out of a job.
Fried’s successor on the city council, Alan Gerson, is one of the people who voted to extend his own term. He is an outwardly affable lawyer. A round face, a broad smile, he hadn’t been in office long but he had mastered the art of the politician: an earnestness that implied total commitment to his constituents. Our cause was his cause—whatever that might be. Service to it embodied the very purpose to which he had dedicated his professional life. Rhetorical clouds of civic virtue seemed to billow around his head.
Gerson spoke of fearsome negotiations with high-level housing officials, of meetings on our behalf with deputy mayors. He issued press releases, wrote letters, posed for pictures in the local papers. Had we asked, he would have promoted a council resolution calling on the mayor to preserve Mitchell-Lama housing, or proclaiming “Mitchell-Lama Day in New York.” Meetings, letters, resolutions, hearings—standard gestures.
Commitments were hedged with contingencies. Too often tenants heard the commitments; those of us who knew him heard the contingencies. Gerson hinted at a successful outcome, but only if we followed his leadership. Many tenants believed him. A few of us knew he would take us right off a cliff.
We wouldn’t let him speak at tenant meetings so he distributed a letter under every door. He took credit for things he hadn’t done, talked about resolutions that he planned to introduce, of “vision statements,” of how he had “reached out” to the deputy mayor. Nothing ever happened. I responded with a strongly worded letter to the tenants, explaining that when politicians take credit, “ordinarily we would let this political posturing pass for what it is — political posturing. But this is your money that we’re spending … we aren’t going to be silent or allow you to be fooled: … our homes are at stake.”
I went on to explain why Gerson’s letter was misleading. He didn’t write any more letters, but he was angry. He had only narrowly won the Democratic primary. We were an important constituency, by far the strongest grassroots political organization in the area. We didn’t want anyone to represent us at meetings, at least not without our being in the room. “Not about us without us” didn’t originate with us, but it was a good rule of thumb.
Higher politicians and Bloomberg’s housing officials encouraged Gerson’s approach. They and he viewed the tenants through the same prism: we were outsiders, disturbers of the political peace. The only way to get our landlord, Laurence (“Call me Larry”) Gluck, to negotiate was to give him something to worry about. He would never worry about Alan Gerson.
Kathryn Fried
An earlier encounter with Gerson’s predecessor is worth telling about. Kathryn Fried lost her council seat and the race for Public Advocate. She was off the public payroll for the first time in years. At about the same time, the legislature was redrawing the state legislative districts. It appeared that they would be dividing Independence Plaza into two separate senate districts. Fried was agitated about it. She urged me to lead a tenant protest. “Kathryn,” I replied, “the only person who would be upset about Independence Plaza having two senators is someone who might be thinking about running for a senate seat with Independence Plaza as her base.” (With her base split into two districts, her chances of unseating the incumbent in a primary were poor.) She walked away steaming. It was the only encounter with her that I actually enjoyed. But we hadn’t heard the last of her. She still needed a job.
Diane Lapson, a board member, now the Independent Plaza tenant president, was a member of Gerson’s and Fried’s local Democratic club. Lapson was friendly with both politicians. She called me to say that Fried was meeting with Martin Connor, the state senator who would now represent part of Independence Plaza. Fried had told Lapson that she was going to see about getting Connor to pass Mitchell-Lama legislation in Albany. Lapson wanted us to meet about this new Albany approach. We met in Socrates, the neighborhood coffee shop, now gone. I didn’t like the smell of it and asked John Scott, another board member, to come along.
Lapson insisted that Fried was making a sincere effort to help us. “Albany isn’t going to do anything useful for us, especially not through anything Kathryn Fried does with a Democratic state senator,” I said. “It’s ridiculous. This meeting is about Marty Connor putting her on his payroll. She’ll tell Connor that she represents Independence Plaza tenants. Maybe she’ll threaten to run against him. Maybe he’ll give her a job to get her off his back. That’s fine, but it’s stupid to focus on Albany, and especially to rely on her or Connor to do anything. Even if he wanted to, he couldn’t.” Lapson said she wasn’t convinced. If Connor came up with something, I told her we’d look at it. We left it at that.
Connor’s housing expert, someone I’d known for years, called me a few days later. Connor had indeed put Fried on his payroll for $40,000. They were working on a legislative proposal for us, he said, and he wanted my comments. We both knew that the proposal would die a natural death from inattention, the fate of all such legislative proposals that are designed not to become laws but to deceive constituents into believing that their sponsors care. Had we pursued this Albany “opportunity” instead of focusing on New York City, our campaign to save our homes would have died right then. Eventually, Fried got herself a minor judgeship and moved out of Independence Plaza.
All’s well that ends well.
Shortly after Gerson took office, he put one of our newly elected vice presidents on his council payroll. I objected. She was adamant about holding onto her paying job and her board position. Some argued that she should keep the job because she would have better access to the councilman. Of course it was Gerson who wanted better access to us.
I tried to reason with this vice president. “If you owned a department store, would you want your buyer on the payroll of the company that’s selling luggage to your store? Well we’re the department store and Gerson will be trying to sell us his luggage. You can’t serve two masters: Gerson and the tenants. We can’t have anybody on his payroll.”
She was furious. I don’t know whether she believed it, but she told tenants I had made a racial slur with my “two-masters” remark. I was stunned. I had taught partnership and agency law, and the “two-master” comment is an age old legal principle that’s expressed in exactly that way. It’s just common sense. We couldn’t allow Gerson to compromise us. We were at an impasse. Eventually, she resigned and kept her job with Gerson. She still works there. She still lives here. She still doesn’t talk to me — or my wife.
After a number of meetings and a couple of nasty board elections, we were able to establish a well-motivated, capable tenant board. Most tenants seemed to believe in us. There are many good people on the current tenant board, but things have slipped. Some have mixed agendas. And now Gerson is back. I understand that he’s put more tenants on the public payroll. What will it take to get rid of him? If not a wooden stake and some garlic, I, for one, wouldn’t object to a minor judgeship. He would do less harm.
- Neil Fabricant
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Posted by Shaq Khan
June 27, 2009 @ 1:13 am
I don’t think that I have ever read a more arrogant, rude, and imprecise screed in my entire life.
I think you write to impress yourself. You’re right. You don’t invite someone to dinner and then curse at them. By from your tone I’m sure that wasn’t the first time.
I’ve been a resident in District #1 for many years and have watched (but not gotten involved in) local politics. One of the reasons is that I would have to deal with people like you.
Single issue voters like you play on people’s ignorance, not politicians. You think by putting politics on auto-pilot you’re doing something. It becomes clear it’s because you know that no one will listen to you, so you can’t influence elections any other way.
Voters are smart. They have short attention spans because they have lives to lead. But, just like Iran, they want free, fair elections. They don’t want their choices dictated by a group of closed-minded people, like the author of this article.
I would suggest that the author get over himself and, if he wants to make points in favor of term limits, make an rational, reasoned argument and stop thinking this is all about him
Posted by Neil_Fabricant
June 27, 2009 @ 2:53 pm
If you think anything I’ve written is “imprecise” or inaccurate, please let me know.
Neil Fabricant
Posted by Bloomberg Watch
June 29, 2009 @ 3:39 pm
[...] played in our fight. You can read a small part of what was done in an article entitled “Dealing With Local Politicians: Anybody Have a Wooden Stake?” It spells out the devious tactics he and other politicians employed to mislead the tenants [...]
Posted by Sandy Reiner
July 6, 2009 @ 12:38 pm
I agree that Bloomberg has to go. I also have my doubts about Christein Quinn; think she was upfront when she started - don’t know what happened to scare her into submission.
However, when it comes to the next City Council Member, I have other thoughts…..
We still need a good city council rep. The people running downtown are:
Margaret Chin: She simply has a very questionable past.
http://www.city-journal.org/article02.php?aid=1606
I’m not saying this is the absolute truth, but I do believe some of it because I’ve heard about her associations before, years ago, when it was happening. Wouldn’t trust her or her intentions.
Pete Gleason: I suppose this man has too much time on his hands and would like to be somebody. His own website shows he’s done nothing. Just talks a lot. Has friends on the lower east side because he defended their rights. His own fellow fire fighters don’t think much of him - but anyway, they can’t vote downtown because they don’t live here. No track record, fights dirty.
A Gerson: I think Gerson’s fault is that he overextends himself. I was disappointed because he originally was against term extending. Don’t know what happened. Maybe he felt the pressure of his other city council members.
P.J. Kim: Now this guy might be the most innocent of them all. His
school record is basically all he’s got; plus some job experience. He’s young and he’s fed up. He’s also had experience with his family suffering by being immigrants. His education, according to his website is quite extensive and impressive. He wants to help the underprivileged.
Can he be strong in City Council?
I am not sure whether I will vote for PJ Kim or A. Gerson. Living downtown means we need someone good to confront all the issues going on here. I have seen Gerson face up to the LMCCC, the DOT, the people who put tons of dangerous explosive fuel into a building on Hudson Street, endless builders converting offices to residences. I’ve read his Right of First Refusal legislation; and I don’t think he’s just out for himself.
But honestly, do you really think ANY politician is not out for himself? Of course - that’s the career he chose. No matter who you wind up supporting, that’s the foundation.
I like your comments but sometimes I think you get too personal in your judgements. You seem to be judging each candidate you are opposed to by some personal experience, rather than also looking at the bigger picture of what he or she has accomplished.
In the end, that’s why it’s hard to use this interesting website as a basis for who to support. Sounds sometimes like personal vendetta’s. Just being candid. I’m not saying I don’t get a lot out of it. I do.
Posted by Neil_Fabricant
July 6, 2009 @ 2:59 pm
These are thoughtful comments and I’ll try to answer them as best I can. You’re right that I feel personally offended at some of the things I’ve experienced in dealing with Gerson and some of the other New York politicians.
My bottom line is truth-telling. I know it sounds self righteous–but it’s hard not to sound that way when you’re trying to save your own home and help others do the same, and you know beyond all doubt that the people who claim to represent you have no bottom line whatsoever.
With the exception of Jerry Nadller, they were the enemy. All i can do is recount my own experiences with them. i’ll do more of that as the campaign unfolds. Others who were with me saw the same things; I can assure you of that. Some will disagree. I believe that they are either misguided or, as I know some do, they have mixed agendas.
Again, what I write will either have the ring of truth or it won’t. I try to give contemperaneous evidence when it’s available–as in the Phipps Plaza case, for example.
On the issue of term limits, of course every politician wants to be re-elected to his or her current position or go higher. But again, there has to be a bottom line: where, as here, the people have voted twice on no third terms–and someone discards that vote–s/he has crossed the rubicon as far as I’m concerned.
I think you’re mistaken when you think that either Quinn or Gerson or any of the others agonized over their votes–their interests were perfectly aligned with bloomberg’s — you said it yourself when you asked rhetorically
:But honestly, do you really think ANY politician is not out for himself? Of course - that’s the career he chose. No matter who you wind up supporting, that’s the foundation.
Neither Quinn or Gerson had to be scared into submission or feel pressure from others–the point is the one you make__they didn’t give a damn what we voted.
Vindicating the meaning of our vote is the transcendent issue in this campaign. Even if Gerson were a great city council member–which you and i agree he is not–it would not matter one whit. and let me just say that city council members operate at the margins of government power. They have little leverage on the mayor or his agencies. I’ll write about that in future posts.
Finally, as for the various records of the candidates. I don’t know any of them. I did many years ago at someone’s request, meet Chin, but I actually voted for Gerson the first time around. I didn’t know him and hadn’t had any dealing with him. I didn’t look at the link for Chin but someone did send me something that claimed she was a communist. E gads! We’re back to the red menace–the better dead than red days. How silly that seems.
I have the same problem with Gleason that you and others have, and I did get an unpleasant phone call from him when he ran the first time around.
As for Kim, he has little support. I’m not sure that he won’t simply divide the asian-american support for Chin, and allow Gerson to slip through. I’m sure Gerson is counting on something like that happening.
So there it is–I can’t say it isn’t personal–but vendetta is too strong a word. I’m generally speaking a happy man who loves his wife and kids and has a good time in life.
Posted by Sandy Reiner
July 6, 2009 @ 4:08 pm
Thanks for taking the time for such a thoughtful response.
One clarification in my rhetorical question you mention:
“But honestly, do you really think ANY politician is not out for himself? Of course - that’s the career he chose. No matter who you wind up supporting, that’s the foundation.”
I purposely left out the word “just” in “out for himself.” I am not implying that every politician is JUST out for himself (or herself) but that the nature of that job is often that the person wants personal power, though he or she hopefully wants to accomplish something good for others as well.
Also, I’m not yelling “communist.” I’ve had doubts about Chin’s various comments in the past as well as her associations. My favorite English teacher was a Communist but I wouldn’t trust him in office.
Glad to hear your last sentence. It’s all not worth a thing if life ain’t
good.